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[krizzx]

I want to share and find all  seinen manga that are good but are heard of by few people. Generally the manga and anime that are really entertaining but have no major following in the west.

I'm mostly aiming this towards older manga that were made in the 90s, 80s, and 70s but really good modern manga are OK as well.

Let's start off with the Devilman manga. This is not to be confused with the anime because plots are completely different from the beginning to the very core. The events and the intensity of the action are like nothing you see today. My favorite part in the manga is when the main character becomes Devilman. Hosting a wild party and then massacring the guest in order to summon demons yourself is something you don't see very often anymore.

Then there is Nineteen. I can't say much about the manga because only 2 chapters were ever scanlated. By crosschecking the OVA and the two chapters of the manga I believe it is about a dude who meets this old girl after becoming a salary man. He believes her to be a good one but is constantly receiving information that suggests otherwise. I don't want to spoil anything so I won't say anymore but it was pretty entertaining. I wish someone would finish scanlating it ,because judging by the length of the manga listed on bakaupdates it goes far beyond that


EDIT: I'm going to put the manga in this first post for easier access.

Nineteen http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=353

Ryuguden http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=1309

DoLL (OKADO Tatsuya) http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=33468

Tuesday, 9PM http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=33303

Junk Boy http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=6281

Deadman http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=305

Happy Go Lucky Day http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=5842

Sex Nanka Kyouminai http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=42034

Love Comedy Style http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=11057

Renai Life http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=2598

Perfect Twin http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=3703

Nijigahara Holograph http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=6515

SWWEEET http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=5835

Ressentiment http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=7055

Love Roma http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=5227

Tokyo 80s http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=1426

3.3.7. Byooshi http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=701

Yuutai Nova http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=13422

Desire http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=10992

Route 20 http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=3436

Ping Pong Club http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=364

Noramimi http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=451

Koi wa Misoji wo Sugite kara http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=39090

Owari To Hajimari http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=41841

Happy Go Lucky Days http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=5842

Voices in the Dark Complete    http://www.anonymz.com/?http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VTOIWDO3

The Drifting Classroom
Yusaku Hanakuma's Tokyo Zombie
Panorama of Hell
Kazuo Umezu - Scary Books 1-2

Hohzuki Island http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=21858

Sometimes mellow. http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=55910

Higanjima http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=3564

Sundome http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=11316

Bousou Shojo http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=30773

The Hating Girl http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=134

Okama report http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=262

Hetakoi http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=14443

[BlueDemon]

Yup, Devilman is pretty awesome. Ending is very seinen-like too. Definitely something to be recommended! 

[Uncle Cali]

I've read the two chapters available of Nineteen a long time ago, I didn't know there was an anime version of it.

I'd say "Dead End" is an underrated title, since I don't see many comments on it, but since it got a licensed English version, maybe it's mroe famous than I know. "Smuggler" as well.

[Henchy432]

Devilman was one of the darker manga I have ever read.

[silverado]

I recommend Lone Wold & Cub it's quite good and exactly what you are looking for. Almost all samurai manga are still copying LW&C. It's kinda like one of manga godfathers. Btw, if you recommend a manga, why not uploading it as well?

[Henchy432]

I recommend Lone Wold & Cub it's quite good and exactly what you are looking for. Almost all samurai manga are still copying LW&C. It's kinda like one of manga godfathers. Btw, if you recommend a manga, why not uploading it as well?

Even Frank Miller ripped off Lone wolf and Cub. It's epic.

[mono]

also reccomend lone wolf & cub, its amazing
we'v got it on our blog somewhere if you want it...

gonna checkout devilman as id overlooked it for the exact reasons you said not to dismiss it. nice

[Revilenigma]

Don't forget to check out Golgo13

[Uncle Cali]

Bokko also comes to mind.

[R3dknight]

Even Frank Miller ripped off Lone wolf and Cub. It's epic.

I believe I still have them here in the old boxes of comics

[Uncle Cali]

So, we'll upload our suggestions like Silv said?

By the way, "2001 Nights" is also a good one.

[Revilenigma]

By the way, "2001 Nights" is also a good one.

I downloaded it but I still haven't read it yet.

how can I forget:
AKIRA

[mono]

I downloaded it but I still haven't read it yet.

me too :S

i also suggest:
Akira obviously :)
Dorohedoro
Ichi the Killer
Blood Alone
Planetes
Freesia
Blade of the Immortal maybe

all on our site in various places.. if you want seinen reccomendations and updates check us out daily as the name suggests :P and use the search if you lookin for somethin specific

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[Revilenigma]

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It could be cause the profile options for the sigs are turned off by default

[Uncle Cali]

Concerning at least Akira:

I want to share and find all  seinen manga that are good but are heard of by few people.

I thought this was unknown greatness, stuff that doesn't really get as famous as they should. Akira, both anime and manga is a well-known classic, so...
(Not that there's anything wrong with listing the great ones, even if not unknown).

Another title for the mix: Hanaotoko, by Taiyo Matsumoto.
(dunno if it's well-known or not)

[Revilenigma]

forgot about Taiyo

No. 5
Black and White
Blue Spring

other unknown stuff:

Domu
Bakune Young
Uncivilized Planet
Tropical Citron
Undecided
Suicide Island (why is no one scanlating this anymore!?)
Drifting Classroom (ditto)
Dawn Chilly Hands (not sure if it's seinen or shonen)

[Uncle Cali]

^Somehow I can't get myself to like Domu. I wonder why.

Now, Uncivilized Planet and Tropical Citron are a must. Jiro Matsumoto is great.

I never heard of Undecided nor Bakune Young.
Suicide Island, Drifiting Classroom and Dawn Chilly Hands are on my reading list, but I still haven't tried them.

What about 7 Seeds, by Tamura Yuki? It's josei, but hey...

[Revilenigma]

suicide island is very "lord of the flies"/"battle royale"ish

Undecided reminds me a lot of "keep on vibrating" it's a bunch of shorts with a art style similar to jiro

Bakune Young is a must read, it's a mix of The World is Mine and a Taiyo Matsumoto manga, it's just so damn funny and insane. It's about this insane maniac who after an indecent at a pachinko parlor decides to go after the yakuza and eventually holds a bunch of senior citizens hostage for about a trillion dollars.

[krizzx]

me too :S

i also suggest:
Akira obviously :)
Dorohedoro
Ichi the Killer
Blood Alone
Planetes
Freesia
Blade of the Immortal maybe

all on our site in various places.. if you want seinen reccomendations and updates check us out daily as the name suggests :P and use the search if you lookin for somethin specific

EDIT: looks like my sig doesnt show in here for some reason so:

Those actually have a degree of popularity and so does Akira. I was gearing this more towards the good manga that few people have heard of. The good unknown or perhaps I should say "not so popular" seinen manga.

[Revilenigma]

Voyeur
Voyeur Inc
AD Police
Zero One
Ohikkoshi
Fuan No Tane
Icaro
Blue Heaven

[Uncle Cali]

Ohikkoshi is also pretty good. Hiroaki Samura knows his stuff too.

If I remember correctly, Voyeur and Voyeur Inc were uploaded in a (not so) recent post on mydailymanga.
I tried to download it, but my connection at the time had some issues and I couldn't get it.

[mono]

icaro and blue heaven are on there too. the posts will have other reccomendations on the post. theres been some good complete series posts recently

[krizzx]

Ohikkoshi is also pretty good. Hiroaki Samura knows his stuff too.

If I remember correctly, Voyeur and Voyeur Inc were uploaded in a (not so) recent post on mydailymanga.
I tried to download it, but my connection at the time had some issues and I couldn't get it.

I actually preferred voyeur to voyeurs inc. I liked the main personalities better on the original.

[morten]

I always wanted to create a "Cake List" for unknown good Seinen manga as recommendation thread for people who have already read most of the commonly known Seinen titles...

Yesterday I read Litchi Hikari Club, which I recommend. There are only 2 chapters scanlated yet and it's a one shot:

Litchi Hikari Club by Usamaru Furuya (PAI, Suicide Circle, Happiness)

Litchi Hikari Club c01&02

I also recommend Vimanga if you look for a good collection of Seinen titles...

ViManga

Some good short-cakes:

- Anuki
- Ashen Victor
- Grey
- One Missed Call
- Remote
- Samurai Executioner (Prequel of Lone Wolf and Cub
- Saikano
- Telepathic Wanderers

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[Uncle Cali]

^Remote is the second worst manga I've ever read in my entire life...
Saikano's good. Telephatic Wanderes is ok.

The rest of them I haven't read yet, though I started reading Samurai Executioner a while ago.

In any case, another good one is Ryuguden scanlated by the ever amazing Manga Screener.

[mono]

nice, bigs thanks for that site link Morten.
im downloading grey now, saw it before on baka but the downloads arent on there.
im gonna reupload and post on MU

UBER SHREWD

[Revilenigma]

In any case, another good one is Ryuguden scanlated by the ever amazing Manga Screener.

I planning to read it soon, it's from the same manga-ka of Bakune Young.

[mono]

lol the description of that manga ^ is hilarious   

Two brothers wearing bunnysuits hop on a phallic train and travel to a mysterious underwater brothel.

[morten]

^Remote is the second worst manga I've ever read in my entire life...

Artwork and story get better in later chaps, but I know what you mean... The mangaka had to find his style first...

[krizzx]

^Remote is the second worst manga I've ever read in my entire life...
Saikano's good. Telephatic Wanderes is ok.

The rest of them I haven't read yet, though I started reading Samurai Executioner a while ago.

In any case, another good one is Ryuguden scanlated by the ever amazing Manga Screener.

I must agree. Remote kinda bored the hell out of me. It was too predictable like "most" female focused manga with from male authors. I actually read a lot of the manga that has been listed. I haven't read Anuki so I will check that out later.

Tuesday, 9PM http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=33303 About a dude with a new female roomate.
DoLL (OKADO Tatsuya) http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=33468 About an old man with some dolls.

These two I found to be pretty interesting.

I don't know if this has acquired popularity or not.
Goodnight PunPun http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=11346 Its about about PunPun.

[Uncle Cali]

Artwork and story get better in later chaps, but I know what you mean... The mangaka had to find his style first...

Dunno, I can't find one single thing to like about Remote. If Jigoku Shoujo wasn't the worst manga in history, then it'd be Remote.
I feel like killing the mangaka and damning him to hell for existing. ¬¬'

@ krizzx: Tuesday, 9PM is nice, it's on my "someday I'll translate this to portuguese" list. (it's a long list of titles and never ending lazyness)

The other two titles you mentioned are unknown to me as of yet.

What do you guys think of 3x3 Eyes?
It's a bit shounen-ish, but still, story wise I think it has quite some interesting developments. Points up for the creativity factor.

[krizzx]

Dunno, I can't find one single thing to like about Remote. If Jigoku Shoujo wasn't the worst manga in history, then it'd be Remote.
I feel like killing the mangaka and damning him to hell for existing. ¬¬'

@ krizzx: Tuesday, 9PM is nice, it's on my "someday I'll translate this to portuguese" list. (it's a long list of titles and never ending lazyness)

The other two titles you mentioned are unknown to me as of yet.

What do you guys think of 3x3 Eyes?
It's a bit shounen-ish, but still, story wise I think it has quite some interesting developments. Points up for the creativity factor.

I haven't read the Jigoku Shoujo manga  but I watched the anime. If it was anything like the anime then it definitely is terrible. Every episode is the exact same thing over and over again. Cue some extreme cliche dramatic event of Japanese society(bullying, debt, sports, illness), cue one character having an awkward relationship with the main character, cue random nonsense flashes and events then other character sailing in a boat.


Desire http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=10992 looks pretty interesting so far. I need a few more chapters to tell.

Yuutai Nova http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=13422Not sure if this has picked up popularity yet but it  is one of my favorites at the moment. I just wish they would release more faster.

3.3.7. Byooshi http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=701 Anime Waves has started back working on it. For the moment.

Tokyo 80s http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=1426 Another with only two chapters translated. The group is dead and they stopped working on it long before that happened.

[Uncle Cali]

^Route 20 is a nice one too. There's a short clip with The Crystal Ship (by The Doors) playing as background music, if I'm not mistaken.

Hitsuji no uta, aka "Lament of the Lamb"
Hells Angels
Bio-Meat: Nectar

(and I guess that's it for the more or less unknown great stuff I know)

[morten]

I found a lot of Shintaro Kago stuff on /rs/, how is he? Like Itou?

Saw that pic and then searched for his mangas scanlated...

[Revilenigma]

I found a lot of Shintaro Kago stuff on /rs/, how is he? Like Itou?

have you seen his you tube account? fucking awesome!

I have a scanlated version of Punctures somewhere in my computer, it's in Portuguese I think.

[blackmass]

http://digilander.libero.it/fortifiedschool/immagini.htm
http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=11608

the coolest unknown seinen for me is Fortified School (Yousai Gakuen) by Takeshi Narumi with insane art by Shinichi Hiromoto, it only got published in Japan and Italy.I picked up the final volume in Rome a few years ago and really wanna make it my first scanlation project.
It really is full on psychedelic chaos.

[Revilenigma]

is Shin Angyo Onshi any good?

on MU for all the recommendations for a lot of my favorite manga Shin Angyo Onshi always appears and at the top of the list.

[Uncle Cali]

^Shin Angyo Onshi is good. The anime movie is kind of sucky, but the manga is definetely worth trying, imo.
EDIT:
There's also "Mirai Nikki", which's released on a shounen magazine but it should be cathegorized on the seinen side, if you'd ask me.

[mono]

shin angyo IS very very good.
honestly

[Uncle Cali]

^There's also "Island" from the creators of Shin Angyo Onshi. Overral I prefer SAO, but it's good as well.

I didn't put more adjectives with SAO because since there are different tastes and all, maybe it won't be so much to one's liking, but it's among my favorite titles, though not in the "super-ultra-favorite" circle (in which you'd find Monster, which doens't fit in the unknown greatness).

[morten]

I actually regard Shin Angyo Onshi as common mainstream and not of "unknown greatness"...  

Fell in love with the Miyazaki mangas I found on mydailymanga...  
I wish there would be more like this...

[mono]

oh ok i get you now,. i tend to miss the point of posts :S

but if someone thinks SAO is mainstream and thus bad, and doesnt read it for that reason - doesnt that make it "unknown greatness"!?

[krizzx]

oh ok i get you now,. i tend to miss the point of posts :S

but if someone thinks SAO is mainstream and thus bad, and doesnt read it for that reason - doesnt that make it "unknown greatness"!?

It is popular. Its not about good or bad.

The point of this thread is to find good manga that I have never heard of. I've read SAO and the main characters hypocritical self-righteous nature really turn me off. The over plot and mechanics weren't anything unique either. It couldn't hold my interest.

Though let us not forget the not so popular but good anime.

Nineteen http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=3607

Eve no Jikan http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=5132

Dead Leaves http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=1170

Infinite Ryvius http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=192

[Uncle Cali]

Righto.

Then, there's also "King of Bandit Jing", though the OVA "Seventh Heaven" is quite superior to the anime series, IMO.

What else...?
... I can't really think of anything for the moment.
I'd say FLCL, but I guess it's not unknown.

BTW, "Dead Leaves" is my kind of thing, I've watched it last year.

[krizzx]

Now for another batch of rarely seen anime

Mind Game http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=1834

Malice@Doll http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=4101

Sentou Mecha Xabungle http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=2357 Its currently being subbed here http://axsus-news.blogspot.com/

Kemonozume http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=4392

Also, some more manga.

Nijigahara Holograph http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=6515

SWWEEET http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=5835

Ressentiment http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=7055

Love Roma http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=5227

[Revilenigma]

I love Nijihara, it's one of my favs

I've downloaded Swweeet and Resentment but I haven't read them yet.

[krizzx]

I love Nijihara, it's one of my favs

I've downloaded Swweeet and Resentment but I haven't read them yet.

Then you should definately get started. Sadly the last part of each one of those has yet to be scanlated. SWWEEET only lack a few more chapters.

[Revilenigma]

Then you should definately get started. Sadly the last part of each one of those has yet to be scanlated. SWWEEET only lack a few more chapters.

Kotonoha is back, so they it's possible that they'll finish it.

[krizzx]

It is nice to see them active again. They also reminded me of some more manga.

Happy Go Lucky Day http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=5842

Sex Nanka Kyouminai http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=42034

Love Comedy Style http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=11057

Renai Life http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=2598 Kind of Josei-ish but it pretty funny. No one is working on it though.

Perfect Twin http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=3703 This is another series that I wish someone would pick up. It hasn't been worked on in years.

[Revilenigma]

Has anyone checked out la Mosca yet?