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[krizzx]

I want to share and find all  seinen manga that are good but are heard of by few people. Generally the manga and anime that are really entertaining but have no major following in the west.

I'm mostly aiming this towards older manga that were made in the 90s, 80s, and 70s but really good modern manga are OK as well.

Let's start off with the Devilman manga. This is not to be confused with the anime because plots are completely different from the beginning to the very core. The events and the intensity of the action are like nothing you see today. My favorite part in the manga is when the main character becomes Devilman. Hosting a wild party and then massacring the guest in order to summon demons yourself is something you don't see very often anymore.

Then there is Nineteen. I can't say much about the manga because only 2 chapters were ever scanlated. By crosschecking the OVA and the two chapters of the manga I believe it is about a dude who meets this old girl after becoming a salary man. He believes her to be a good one but is constantly receiving information that suggests otherwise. I don't want to spoil anything so I won't say anymore but it was pretty entertaining. I wish someone would finish scanlating it ,because judging by the length of the manga listed on bakaupdates it goes far beyond that


EDIT: I'm going to put the manga in this first post for easier access.

Nineteen http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=353

Ryuguden http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=1309

DoLL (OKADO Tatsuya) http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=33468

Tuesday, 9PM http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=33303

Junk Boy http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=6281

Deadman http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=305

Happy Go Lucky Day http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=5842

Sex Nanka Kyouminai http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=42034

Love Comedy Style http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=11057

Renai Life http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=2598

Perfect Twin http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=3703

Nijigahara Holograph http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=6515

SWWEEET http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=5835

Ressentiment http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=7055

Love Roma http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=5227

Tokyo 80s http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=1426

3.3.7. Byooshi http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=701

Yuutai Nova http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=13422

Desire http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=10992

Route 20 http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=3436

Ping Pong Club http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=364

Noramimi http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=451

Koi wa Misoji wo Sugite kara http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=39090

Owari To Hajimari http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=41841

Happy Go Lucky Days http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=5842

Voices in the Dark Complete    http://www.anonymz.com/?http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VTOIWDO3

The Drifting Classroom
Yusaku Hanakuma's Tokyo Zombie
Panorama of Hell
Kazuo Umezu - Scary Books 1-2

Hohzuki Island http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=21858

Sometimes mellow. http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=55910

Higanjima http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=3564

Sundome http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=11316

Bousou Shojo http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=30773

The Hating Girl http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=134

Okama report http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=262

Hetakoi http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=14443

[krizzx]

Has anyone checked out la Mosca yet?

I don't see a place to download it.

[Revilenigma]

Mangatraders got it.

[krizzx]

Yes!!! Within the last 12 hours 3  chapters of Onanai Master Kurosawa have been released and 2 Yuutai Nova chapters. This has been a good 12 hours.
Replied: July 25, 2009, 09:08:39 AMDamn, I didn't see that coming. You should go pick up Onani Master Kurosawa.

[Revilenigma]

Viz just up a bunch of ikki stuff on their site, a lot of it never got scanlated, I love "I'll give it my all... tomorrow" and "Saturn apartments". also check out Soil, it's scanlated by kotohana.

[krizzx]

Woah, they're even getting Dorohedoro. You know i've thinking this since back in 04 when I first really got into the fansub and scanlation scene I think that those companies are actually watching the scanlation group and fansub group to see whats popular so they can license it.

I wonder how much they are going to butcher Bokurano's plot instances animation. I doubt they'll show the scene where the girl that was being accused of being a prostitute finds out the girl that was accusing her sitting on top of a dude in a hotel room.

[Urameshi-sama]

I wonder how much they are going to butcher Bokurano's plot instances animation. I doubt they'll show the scene where the girl that was being accused of being a prostitute finds out the girl that was accusing her sitting on top of a dude in a hotel room.

I don't remember that in the Bokurano anime (I watched the jap version)....
Remember the anime is quite different from the manga.

[hellsling]

The director didn't like the direction of the manga and wanted to kids to....


http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-06-14/bokurano-helmer-changes-story-due-to-dislike-of-manga

[krizzx]

I don't remember that in the Bokurano anime (I watched the jap version)....
Remember the anime is quite different from the manga.

I don't get what your saying. I'm talking about the manga. I rarely EVER watch anime adaptations of manga because the plot is butchered most of the time. Most of the things that are unique about manga that I like are replaced with more generic occurrences which usually counteracts  the reason why the manga was adpated into an anime in the first place. They adapt because of it uniqueness then make it not unique.

The last anime I watched that was made after a manga I was reading was Joshi Kosei. They butchered it everything straight from the beginning. They changed the intro plot to a make it more normal(Kouta and her friends weren't even there in the beginning. They already attended the all girls school). The personality changes were so vast that I wouldn't know where to begin in the final straw that made me just stop looking at it was the episode where that girls boyfriend broke up with her. They completely warped into some kinda almost rape thing where the girl punched the dude in the face and broke up with him at the end. It was nothing like that in the manga. In fact the manga had almost hard drama in it. That particular event was two parts that were a volume apart in the manga. The short girl that they had with him in the anime wasn't at neither event in the manga. What had happened was that they played a joke on her ex boyfriend and left him with a huge bill to pay for. There wasn't anything relating to rape, fighting or dramatic claims made during the event. I thought that watered berserk down and altered its plot a lot in the anime may but they just completely destroyed Joshi Kosei and Yume Tsukai.

[Revilenigma]

I doubt viz will be censoring that scene, if they were releasing it under their shonenjump or shonenjump advance name than maybe. But it's being released under the ikki sig (which is being marketed to adults) and as far as can tell viz has never censored anything in their manga, especially their adult ones, only Darkhorse does that.

p.s. apparently the manga reader on viz's site is only available to the US and Canada, so if anyone not from those countries want's to read it just ask and I'll take screenshots.

[krizzx]

I didn't like the ending of Onani Mater Kurosawa. It was kinda of annoying to read.

[hellsling]

Doll is also a pretty interesting manga
http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=33468

[Revilenigma]

shiroi kumo is a great read, it's a collection of oneshots.

has anyone read "i am a Hero" yet? I've downloaded a chapter or two but haven't read it yet.

[krizzx]

I just found and interesting Anime called Tava Fist Planet. Its seem that their is a follow up to it coming out this month so I decided to check it out. Its entertaining so far. http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=1942

Also has anyone else watched cat soup?

[krizzx]

I can't believe I forgot this one

Deadman http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=305

This manga was made by the man who made Goldenboy. It hasn't been worked on for years though. Its got into the second volume and that was it. The plot really had me wanting to see more.

This as well as Tokyo 80s and Junkboy are manga that I had always hoped someone would eventually pick up but sadly it never occured. Oh and I forgot that one too.

Junk Boy http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=6281

[Stone Cold Shego]

Also check out Soil, it's scanlated by Kotohana.

Soil makes me hard, the covers alone are really amazing.

Also by the same mangaka there's Bambi And Her Pink Gun. Unlike Soil it's all rockabillie/\punk hyper action and I really hope someone picks it up again.

[krizzx]

Ping Pong Club http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=364
 I would think that this would be more poplular but I never here or see anything about it. The group that released hasn't realeased ANYTHING in 2 years so I haven't been able to follow through. I was hoping someone would get past the point where the anime stopped because I wanted to see what the rest of the plot had in store.

Route 20 http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=3436
A manga by one of the main guys behind Evangelion and Gunbuster. Its a one volume long manga but it really good. There is an anime pilot for it but no anime was ever made.

[krizzx]

Has anyone else here been keeping up with Goodnight Punpun?

[Revilenigma]

Has anyone else here been keeping up with Goodnight Punpun?

I've downloaded up to ch50, but I stll haven't started it yet, I hate catching up to a series.

[blackmass]

also check out Soil, it's scanlated by kotohana.

Soil is getting very strange.
Proper David Lynch style strange

[alltimelove]

Err... I'm sorry for my bad english >.<

What about Hoero Pen?
It's a story about a mangaka named Honno. It's hilarious & funny, but I loved how the story turn to heroic.
I enjoyed reading this very much I think it's better than Bakuman too..
Actually, this is a sequel to Moeyo Pen, & is a prequel of Shin Hoero Pen, but I haven't read the other two yet..

[Revilenigma]

Err... I'm sorry for my bad english >.<

What about Hoero Pen?
It's a story about a mangaka named Honno. It's hilarious & funny, but I loved how the story turn to heroic.
I enjoyed reading this very much I think it's better than Bakuman too..
Actually, this is a sequel to Moeyo Pen, & is a prequel of Shin Hoero Pen, but I haven't read the other two yet..

Sounds kind of interesting, but I doubt it could be as good as "I'll give it my all... tomorrow"

[krizzx]

Its been so long since I've seen a scanlation release for either of their works that I had started to forget about them. Then I went through my old folders and came across Arigatou and it reminded me to check in on the releases for them.

The most recent scanlations from them were Gakuen heaven and Anjuu no Chi. Its been half a year since either of those have had any releases though. I don't think the groups are doing them anymore.

What even better are http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=26433 this http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=40773. I had no idea that new Angels had started being released. And I like the style of the girl in the Angel 2 picture. Does anyone know where I can find some raws of these?

[morten]

I know of Barbapappa from MangaScreener who wants to work with me together on Extremely K but it's hard to find a translator...

Good news: After one year of work, the first volume of Sleeping Planet comes out at the end of next month and we'll start on Sakuranbo Syndrome in 2 months...

[Revilenigma]

I know of Barbapappa from MangaScreener who wants to work with me together on Extremely K but it's hard to find a translator...

this http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=11020 ?

[morten]

this http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=11020 ?

Yes. I also have 2 oneshots of Naoki. Not sure what to do with them though...

Kotonoha released a new chapter of The Music of Marie after 2 years again...
It's about time Furuya Usamaru gets revisited...

[krizzx]

I know of Barbapappa from MangaScreener who wants to work with me together on Extremely K but it's hard to find a translator...

Good news: After one year of work, the first volume of Sleeping Planet comes out at the end of next month and we'll start on Sakuranbo Syndrome in 2 months...

Woah, you know the guys at Mangascreener? Whats with the year of inactivity? Have they lost all of their translators or something? That was one of the few place where I could expect the non Gal Game and harem type seinen manga to be released. I miss there releases, especially Boku to Issho.

Its nice to hear the sleeping planet news. Whatever happened with Naturally Wet Sayaka? That may have just been a raw that someone post now that I think about it.

I've also finally found a KITOH Mohiro manga that I can read without being turned off by the apatheticness. Owari to Hajimari no Miles do to it humor. I still don't like the taste of the character bland attitudes. I can't tell if they are serious or not. Like when they encountered that other spirit and he talking about doing destroying stuff and I was like, "Is he just giving an metphor or he is he actually going to do what he's saying?"

EDIT:

Viz just up a bunch of ikki stuff on their site, a lot of it never got scanlated, I love "I'll give it my all... tomorrow" and "Saturn apartments". also check out Soil, it's scanlated by kotohana.

I just red I'll Give it My All from Viz's site. Yeah its pretty good. I didn't see that coming in the first chapter.

[morten]

Whatever happened with Naturally Wet Sayaka? That may have just been a raw that someone post now that I think about it.

 

I skipped it from the list. It's way too smutty... Same goes with Tsuyudaku... Most translators don't wanna touch stuff like that...

[krizzx]

Aww damn, I didn't even know that Tsyudaku existed and to already have an dream of being translated crushed. Can I at least get general overview of what going on in it? Who's the women in front of all of monitors, who was the girl that was with the dude off in the woods, why did she get carried away and what the deal with that tree? EDIT: Oh, and do you know of any other series like this one in the raws section? The art style in this manga is kind  of like looking at a mixture of Resentment and Iketeru Futari

Though I'm suprised about Naturally Wet Sayaka. I thought that was pretty tame compared to other stuff that has been scanlated like Golden Boy, Futari Ecchi and most shoujo manga. The bulk of the content I saw it is was mostly low level ecchi with a lot of implied meanings and simulations. There were hardly even any breast shots in that. Though is from what I could tell it did seem that the plot was a lot more focused on those aspects than the other manga I named.

Have you ever read the Ebichu manga or watched the anime?
Replied: [time]Sun Nov  1 21:28:18 2009[/time]Wow! Speak of the Devil. Mangascreen just made a release. You know is kinda strange because the exact same thing happened when I made a similar comment about Geisha not too long ago and Kotonoha before that? Groups that hadn't released in such a long time made one right shortly after I comment about it in this thread. Maybe this thread is a good luck charm.
I wonder if it'll work with other group? Hey, PRISMS suuurrrreeeee hasn't released anything in  a while. I miss old Hanashi. I sure could go for some Honeymoon Salad right now.

[Revilenigma]

on mangainsider, one of the guys at band of the hawk said he was interested to bringing the group back.

[mono]

cool.
to work on berserk?
those guys must be pretty old by now 

[Revilenigma]

I hope they finish scanlating The Journey to the End of the World

[krizzx]

I'm starting to wonder if people that read manga really can't figure out half the stuff that about the happen from layers of forshadowing and general manga trends like me especially when it comes to shounen manga. The reason I can't read shounen manga is because everything is so obvious. Most of the use the same formual that plays out in the same way.

Then their are instances in seinen manga that ,while they aren't as predictable as in shounen manga, still tend to follow a trend. Like in No Bra. Its obvious that Yuuki is really a girl and that the dude is going to find that out later yet they list the manga as shounen-ai on mangaupdates. You can tell by the way ever major event end with him saying, "but Yuuki is a guy".

In most manga when someone says "I know XXXX is true" it turns out not to be  and when they say "There is no way XXXX can happen to XXXX" it will happen. Like in that manga that EMS is doing that "If I see you in my dreams" or something like that, they do that ALL THE TIME. Dude walks off "she would never like/date/think about someone like me" then it turns out she does or "We have XXXX  planned for this evening" and plans get canceled. That's a childish plot mechanic.

Then there is the abominable FORESHADOWING!!! which in most japanese manga is more of telling whats about to happen than alluding to something that's about to happen. Like when they go into a characters thoughts that they hardly ever show to clarify a misconception with a main character but in any or circumstances they never show you what the character is thinking. It usually is done at a part when less shown character is does something dirty. This is also done in "Yume de aeteru" and manga like Suzuki an Love Hina where you have a really bitchy female character that treats the main dude like ass. They always show the female thought only at points like that so she won't look villainous. Its sucks all the surprise out. Oh well, that's enough ranting for now.

[morten]

Junji Ito - Voices in the Dark Complete

[Ikkyusan]

Do you know the author Keiichi Koike ? He did Ultra Heaven for example : http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=8051. His books are now being published in France, that's how I knew of it. And in the end I bought almost all of 'em, I still need to find Spinoza at a decent price.

Now, the true purpose of my presence here : would you be, hmm, interested, in doing an english scanlation of some of his work (namingly Ultra Heaven and G)? Considering that I can provide the raws (pre-edited or not) and a french translation (taken from the french release) if it can help ?

Please tell me what you think of this proposal.

[Revilenigma]

Do you know the author Keiichi Koike ? He did Ultra Heaven for example : http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=8051. His books are now being published in France, that's how I knew of it. And in the end I bought almost all of 'em, I still need to find Spinoza at a decent price.

Never heard of him but his mangas sound fucking awesome.

Now, the true purpose of my presence here : would you be, hmm, interested, in doing an english scanlation of some of his work (namingly Ultra Heaven and G)? Considering that I can provide the raws (pre-edited or not) and a french translation (taken from the french release) if it can help ?

Please tell me what you think of this proposal.

Oh hell yes.

[Ikkyusan]

That's what I wanted to hear.

PM for you, kind sir.

ps: thanks for the welcome btw ^^

[mono]

ultra heaven and g both sound very interesting from their MU descriptions.

are you scanning the raws yourself Ikkyu?
i might be able to help cleaning bubbles or typesetting if you let me check the raws out before i decide......

[Ikkyusan]

PM for you too mono sir

[Revilenigma]

I started cleaning ch1, couldn't resist.

Before I make the tutorial, you know how to rotate and crop right mono?

[mono]

yes i do but i havent agreed to do this yet 
i am very busy irl atm....
Replied: February 15, 2010, 06:48:50 PMalso, i downloaded the raws and i think it messed up.
need to look again before i can decide.

[krizzx]

Fantastilicious.  I've been looking of Angel II for so long http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=40773.

I just found out that a guy posted it in the raws section a while back mistaking it for the normal Angel http://www.jcafe24.net/index.php?topic=9832.0. Oh, the RAPTURE *plays how much is that dogie in the window*

Maybe one day someone will make an auto translator sort of like babelfish only for photoshop .

[krizzx]

Ciguartera has finally been completed. A great manga indeed.

[morten]

Some horror/ gore stuff I collected:

The Drifting Classroom [complete]


Yusaku Hanakuma's Tokyo Zombie


Panorama of Hell


Kazuo Umezu - Scary Books 1-2

[Navic]

Ciguartera has finally been completed. A great manga indeed.

Yep. So is Himizu from the same author. Perhaps even better. Not fully scanlated though.

I'd also like to recommend Mercenary Pierre. About a mercenary who served under Jeanne D'Arc.

And one of my favorites is The Music of Marie.

[harlockmail]

anyone seen translated go nagai's manga lately?

[Redcat74]

This is amazing

[krizzx]

Wow, I really forgot about this thread. I've found so many small name manga's that were good... then forgot about them. I really need to start updating this again.