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There is one basic and simple rule to make your uploads stored as long as possible: USE MANY DIFFERENT FILE HOSTS! Your uploads are save as long as you store your files on different hosts using multiple accounts and different nicknames. Be like the upload guerilla! Be everywhere and use everything! I use 3 different file hosts a 2 accounts. Be smart and use Online Mass Upload Sites to create multiple mirrors with ONE upload! The time saved for reuploading compensates for all inconvenience (registring multiple accounts on different file hosts). Some file hosts supports account sharing and cloning. Use this feature to create identical accounts with the same files! That's all! Good luck uploaders! Personal review: Update: Online Mass Upload Sites:1) http://www.rapidspread.com It mirror files on Uploaded.to | Mediafire | Megaupload | Filefront | Rapidshare | Zippyshare | Zshare | Sendspace | FileFactory | EasyShare | Depositfiles | Imageshack | It'll probably replace shareonall.com 2) http://www.massmirror.com/Supports: fastuploading.com fileinsanity.com picshome.com megaupload.com zshare.net badongo.com rapidshare.com 4filehosting.com Example: http://s1.massmirror.com/43bd444b12ea04f6907fb2d1d62414e3.html 3) http://www.gazup.comRapidShare.com 200mb MegaUpload.com 400mb NetLoad.in 400mb zShare.net 400mb FileFactory.com 300mb Uploaded.to 250mb Uploading.com 100mb Easy-Share.com 100mb HideMyAss.com 200mb One Click Uploaders:
New: http://binload.to/binload.to supports uploads to 300 MB size and has almost no waiting time. The speed is excellent! 1) http://www.mediafire.com: MF supports multiple uploads, has no waiting time and the files are stored for an unlimited time. But there has been a number of account bans and deletion and that's why I recommend everyone who use MF: - To create multiple account clones by copying shared files to multiple mediafire accounts. If one account is deleted the files will stay avaiable as long as the other account is online. - To not reveal your folder keys publicly otherwise your nickname will be revealed and your account can be deleted quite easily (happend in the past a lot). - To link each file individually 2) Divshare.com BLOCKS ASIAN COUNTRIES! DS supports folders, multiple uploads and has no waiting time. On the other hand the download speed is quite low (20-30 KB/s). It has a nice feature: mp3, pdf or txt can be read or played online. I use it for smaller uploads or unlicensed scanlations. 3) Megaupload.com There has been a lot of cases where files were deleted or accounts banned. But all in all it's still a reliable file host. As long as your files are under 100 MB you can use MU's creadit system to get a premium account. The speed is good, but the availability very bad. Many countries are unable to connect to MU or suffer from the HIGH WAITING TIME. Use this only for big files and small numbers! 4) zshare.com Incredible slow download speed but the files last long. Since it's not so popular like other file hosts the risk of getting deleted files are quite low. If you have a lot of volumes and want your files to be stored without worrying whether it gets deleted or not, use this file host. 5) rapidshare.com/.de Forget it! The high waiting time and IP restriction makes it almost impossible to download without premium account. The only strong point is the speed. Use this filehost for oneshots or specials. 6) Sendspace.com My personal favourite of the most annoying file hosts. Don't be like those guys on mangahelpers.com and stay away from this file host. It's gross! silv
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Let's say we make an paypal account. There will be one manager and if you want to buy a manga, you request it. The manager will purchase the manga for you and it will be shipped to your address. This way the account cant be misused and everyone can benefit from it. Small uploader as well as heavy uploader can benefit from it.
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You're so smart Silv-chan. How do you come up with these things? Do you meditate? Have you achieved enlightenment?
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I think the paypal account and earning some money with our links can be a good idea.
BTW, buying stuff (mostly in japan) and ship it (we all live worldwide) will cost a bunch of money for just one volume.
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Can't we buy on amazon.jp and make a delivery directly to the scanner ?
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http://linkin.ws/ sure sounds great. Gonna demo it for a bit and see if it is annoying for users to use or not.
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There is also usercash.com It's pretty annoying, but it should pay. I can probably test it with Cafe Delicious...
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Hrmms I've just tried it and it's definitely not as annoying as usercash. Just simply click on the link and you're there. I am gonna test it out on the latest update posts @ http://www.anime-sensei.net/And see how much clicks I get 
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Can't we buy on amazon.jp and make a delivery directly to the scanner ?
The problem is not to buy on amazon and been shipped. I'm buying each month for +-100euro, but the shipping cost are enormous. By exemple, when I buy 15vol it costs me 7000yen for books and 8000 for shipping costs. Simply because shipping costs are calculated this way on amazon : 3200yen for shipping + 320yen for shipping on each book + price of the book. That's why I said it would somehow sound "stupid" to buy one book and send it abroad (1 book = 400/500yen in japan, sending 1 book in Europa or USA would be 3200+320+400/500yen = 4000+yen). The only "cheapest" way is someone living in Japan who buys for us and then sends abroad (like 5-10vol to each scanners)...
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Found 2 other paying links: ucash.in and linkbucks.com. With usercash.com and linkin.ws, I think we have all of them.
Now, I need to find a way to automate the process of getting such links.
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too bad we're not as popular as mh, they have their own deal with an ad agency. if we made that much money, we could buy a lot of manga
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Ad agency? Well first we need to make ourselves known. Then we brainstorm an idea about the whole manga thing and need people to support. Can't the premium upload members buy the manga for us in Japan? Then scan, etc.
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LOL, you should be glad that we are not as popular as mh. Otherwise we'd be full of narutotards, just like them. Also may I remind you, that this
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It's thanks to those narutards that they can use ad agencies and seriously, web ads never pay off. Especially not for forum sites. So don't start to think in that directions. There are hundreds of small sites who think that they will earn easy money with ads, but they are WRONG! In 98% of all cases they don't earn more than 1-2 bucks a day. That's 30 bucks a month, yeah! Let's buy manga for 30 bucks! If there just werent the problems with shipping.
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How do the narutards sponsor the web agencies? I don't get it >_< Oh so you meant those WEB ADS. They never do make money... It's hard making money online... I mean there's these sites that pay you to read email, but the payout is tiny... This is a really crappy idea, but maybe we should linkbuck our download links along with the anonym? I'll look around these days to see if there's any better and faster ideas...
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It's hard making money online... I mean there's these sites that pay you to read email, but the payout is tiny... This is a really crappy idea, but maybe we should linkbuck our download links along with the anonym? I'll look around these days to see if there's any better and faster ideas...
What is important for a web agency is the amount of daily viewers. I don't have the numbers, but I doubt we reach 2000 unique viewers every day. About linkbuck, it's a pain in the a** ! Suppose that linkbucks shut down, because they don't earn enough money, then all the links are dead ! The best solution is to setup a monthly donation, and ask to people to give a little amount. I suggest a $40 for the first month, to check how much you can get (if it's round $10, just forget about the donation process). Another idea is to give access to paying guys. If we have to pay $1 every month, it may provide a lot of money, since mostly 99% of the visitors are leechers. Of course, submitters will have free access. The problem of this solution is that it takes a lot of human time to maintain...
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Another idea is to give access to paying guys. If we have to pay $1 every month, it may provide a lot of money, since mostly 99% of the visitors are leechers. Of course, submitters will have free access. The problem of this solution is that it takes a lot of human time to maintain...
ABSOLUTELY NOT! Linkbucks is indeed a pain in the [arse] but that could be put as a last resort. If we make people pay, what's the different between this and NarutoFan or BleachExile?!?!? Not that I support leeching, of course.
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The Amazon thing is a good idea. What about game sponsors?
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There's a french website (that of a broadband provider named Illiad) which claims to provide : - Maximum size per files : 1 Go if it is uploaded on the net, 10 Go if it is done with a ftp - Unlimited number of files - No download limit - Stores your files 30 days without download for free... http://dl.free.fr/
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believe me, you can't rely on that site. My internet provider is the same that this dl site and they REALLY track copyrighted stuff... When one of your file is erased (due to copyraighted problem) they blacklist your ip... when too much files are eresed, they ban you. Even if you have dial Ip, then they "ip ranged" ban you... So they suck (even if they are french XD) :)
I'm not even sure they allow non french ip to upload (at leats you can uplaod on their ftp if you have no french ip)...
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believe me, you can't rely on that site. My internet provider is the same that this dl site and they REALLY track copyrighted stuff... When one of your file is erased (due to copyraighted problem) they blacklist your ip... when too much files are eresed, they ban you. Even if you have dial Ip, then they "ip ranged" ban you... So they suck (even if they are french XD) :)
I'm not even sure they allow non french ip to upload (at leats you can uplaod on their ftp if you have no french ip)...
I confirm that I got banned, even though I have 6+ accounts... My banned account was used to store Mangajin (50 volumes). The only way to unban is to send a snail mail. You cannot upload if you are not from France, except if your account was created before 2007. Another problem with free.fr is that the download is limited to 30kb/s, if you are not from Free.fr, and with some obscure reasons. Posted on: May 27, 2008, 08:21:54 PM
The problem is not to buy on amazon and been shipped. I'm buying each month for +-100euro, but the shipping cost are enormous. By exemple, when I buy 15vol it costs me 7000yen for books and 8000 for shipping costs. Simply because shipping costs are calculated this way on amazon : 3200yen for shipping + 320yen for shipping on each book + price of the book.
That's why I said it would somehow sound "stupid" to buy one book and send it abroad (1 book = 400/500yen in japan, sending 1 book in Europa or USA would be 3200+320+400/500yen = 4000+yen).
The only "cheapest" way is someone living in Japan who buys for us and then sends abroad (like 5-10vol to each scanners)...
I just found BeNippon: http://benippon.com/shop/index.php?language=en(also in french, and they accept Paypal transfers). Is this more interesting than Amazon.jp ?
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yep I know this site.
Price for volumes are ok I think. Shipping fees are not that high if you buy 5-10vols. But more more stuff shipping fees are too high (for 25vol, it's 135euros on amazon and 190here with ems).
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damnit!!!! can't use daiphyer anymore.  anyone has another MU link generator? i find with google but most of them are suck limit dl files per day and incredible low speed.... 
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Link generators never worked for me... I only get this useless php file >_<
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Well if didnt notice, if linkbucks did shut down, you can easily restore your links back to normal. AS LONG as you used their full script and not their single link or multiple link system
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what about 4shared? seems nice and simple 5gb free acount
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It's OK, probably... forgot about that, thanks  I think you have to log in every 30 days though.
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Thanks silverado for the info I used sharebee and shareonall. Well I post on another topic about megaupload here
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Just to let you know a better service than sharebee:
The interface is in french, and there is a program to avoid the web uploader. Also, it uploads the files on: DL.free.fr ,RapidShare ,ZShare ,SendSpace ,MegaUpload ,MegaShare ,Easy-Share et FileFactory
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you dont need to hide board INTERNAL links in spoilers -_-
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Pretty useless.
The problem is not to upload on a free hoster, it's to have stable links, that will not disappear if you don't pay $xxx to keep your files online.
The idea is to use massuploaders, like sharebee or superuploader. These services will mirror your files onto several hosts, so that the files remain online for a longer time. It also eases the downloads, since the best hosts for you is not the best for me (their server could be very slow in a given country). So, let's enumerate the multiple upload services !
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What would really help us, is not sharebee (which is quite unreliable) but an upload tool for creating mirrors, especially for mediafire, which tends to delete the files. THIS would really rock as it would make our lifes much easier.
We need a tool that can download files from a batch of links, automatically and upload the files on another service on schedule! Mirror links can be generated faster and uploads can be done over night without much attention. There are already tools like rapidup. but maybe someone could improve them and add a support for mediafire. There is yet a tool that can upload on mediafie! We can assign a mirror team who specialises on certain file hosts like zshare and co.
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We need a tool that can download files from a batch of links, automatically and upload the files on another service on schedule!
Such a tool already exists ! It's here: http://superuploader.net/?action=SoftWareIt uploads to the superuploader service, that mirrors onto several services, like MegaUpload, dl.free.fr, ZShare, Rapidshare, etc... (forget Mediafire, it's really MediaShit, especially for the folders). But the software is not very good, because the files need to be write-enabled, etc... Also, since superuploader.net can disappear, it's a good idea to keep the original links, so that you don't have to reupload the files later. Since it's a .NET application, I can probably decompile it and improve it (after I have finished more important things). Posted on: June 26, 2008, 03:28:16 pm
Just found a program which seems to upload everywhere: Uniploader http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=165998(not tested) Also, SuperUploader is easy to decompile and, thus, modify 
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i get a strange error with uniuploader and it doesnt load the server list (if it has one)
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I think I can modify the source code too, but no time now.
I have some problems with SuperUploader right now, I get "Too many connections". Since I'm uploading Reira, it's really irritating to lose one hour of upload every time (my connection is super slow, and it takes one hour for one file).
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There's a reason why no tools were made for Mediafire.
They dynamically load the HTML file input with JavaScript after the page was loaded in order for it not to be shown in the page source and both the control name & id are dynamic as well.
It's a bit more complex that making a tool for ex: Rapidshare, who do not hide their controls.
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I found a place called MyBloop. 1GB file size limit, unlimited disk space, no file deletions, no waiting time, and they don't even remove your illegal stuff. Lol. Comes with an uploader too. Awesome  Absolutely nothing is crippled.
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I found a place called MyBloop. 1GB file size limit, unlimited disk space, no file deletions, no waiting time, and they don't even remove your illegal stuff. Lol. Comes with an uploader too. Awesome  Absolutely nothing is crippled. In my opinion, it's a bad idea to rely on a single host. The reason is that they are very lax at the beginning, when their bandwidth is not used at all. But when the site becomes a little known, a lot of people download their files, so they have start TOS policy, and remove the illegal files. Also, a fast speed for you doesn't mean that everybody will have a fast access. The world is large, and a lot of people download around the world (BTW, I'd like to know the geolocations of the visitors). In short, it will be heaven only for a few amount of time. I found another mass mirroring site: http://www.rapidspread.com/I'll try to build a list of the mass mirroring tools, so that all uploaders use them widely. More hosts = less chances to get files removed.
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I'm serious, they do nothing about cracks and stuff. I mean.... lulz the top users are warez uploaders-.- And their search engine reveals myriads of results on cracks and full versions. And they don't look at the support emails. :S I don't trust mass uploading tools. The online web ones are OK but they take forever >_<
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I'm serious, they do nothing about cracks and stuff. I mean.... lulz the top users are warez uploaders-.- And their search engine reveals myriads of results on cracks and full versions. And they don't look at the support emails. :S I don't trust mass uploading tools. The online web ones are OK but they take forever >_<
I repeat: WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE SITE IS ATTACKED WITH LAWSUITS AND HAS TO SHUT DOWN ? Mangas are NOT movies, in the sense that movies don't need to be archived. Frankly, do you believe that we'll reupload all the mangas somewhere else if they are all gone ? Using mirroring tools (as shitty as they are) reduce the probability to maintain the uploads. If your file is uploaded on 8 or more free hosting files, it can be removed by 7 of the hosts and still be valid on one mirror. Your site is only useful for short-term uploads. As I'm working to revive the dead uploads section, I absolutely not recommend uploading on a single host, and mediafire is the worst, although it was the best one 6 months ago.
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Following your logic, MegaUpload and RapidShare should go down the drain too. They are probably the biggest 2 sites people use for copyrighted material and warez. If a small site like MyBloop were to fall for copyright reasons, why can't these big monsters? They have a bigger share in warez distribution. The only reason I don't use the mass mirrors is a) they are slow and in case my mom shuts down the internet they'll take anywhere from half an hour to a few hours and b) the sites usually has expiry limits. If after 90 days or so and no one downloads, it's gone.
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Following your logic, MegaUpload and RapidShare should go down the drain too. They are probably the biggest 2 sites people use for copyrighted material and warez. If a small site like MyBloop were to fall for copyright reasons, why can't these big monsters? They have a bigger share in warez distribution. The only reason I don't use the mass mirrors is a) they are slow and in case my mom shuts down the internet they'll take anywhere from half an hour to a few hours and b) the sites usually has expiry limits. If after 90 days or so and no one downloads, it's gone.
Rapidshare lost a case a few weeks ago, and they had to change a lot of things. If a mass mirroring site could upload to 100+ site, I'd use it immediately, since I would never have to manage their revival (I speak about not popular series, since popular series are easy to find). Today, you can get most of the raws with the links, but in 3 months, what will happen ? Of course Megaupload and Rapidshare could remove the links, but it's less likely to happen than mybloop. Also, they have tons of bandwidth, and can easily upgrade their servers, since they have paying members. MyBloop may have the best policy RIGHT NOW, but I doubt they'll be able to maintain it. As a new company, they need to attract users, since they probably try to attract investors. So it's free for all, as long as they need money. Having a lot of users mean that the investors may want to invest, but when they'll do that, a massive cleaning will happen, since they'll need to have a faithful (and legal) user base. Note also that the plan may backfire, that is: nobody wants to put money in. So the site will die by itself (remember the first Internet crash ?). The uploading tools are what they are, that is: mostly shitty. Mybloop could probably be hosted in your city, that's why you have terrific bandwidth, but it may be super shitty with somebody else a few miles away (or worse: in another country !). In my case, my upload speed is 60kb/s. Making several mirrors is impossible for me, so I have to rely on mass mirroring tools. I upload the file once, and I wait for the mirrors to be available. I use superuploader, because it's hosted in France, so it's super fast for me (at 60kb/s that is), and another reason is that I can modify the client program (and I'll do it when the next version will be out  ). We don't care about warez, we do raws. The problem is to keep the links alive, not to upload a movie on a site so that a lot of people grab it before it dies. Posted on: July 04, 2008, 11:26:12 pm
Answer to: WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE SITE IS ATTACKED WITH LAWSUITS AND HAS TO SHUT DOWN ? From http://www.fhlisting.com07/01/2008 - Xirror.com is gone! Xirror.com, one of the most used metaupload services, is not online anymore. The toFour Gmbh, who owns xirror, wrote that they needed to close the service due to legal reasons. We removed xirror from our list, too. Here is a list of existing services (mybloop is not listed): http://www.fhlisting.com/list.php?type=1&sort=rating&desc=1
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new rapidshare is awesome I like it alot
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uploaded.to is really really fast!
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Just discovered http://cryptload.info/It's a download tool that is able to queue your downloads and download automatically from: netload.in, rapidshare.com, rapidshare.de, uploaded.to, megaupload.com and shareplace.com (plus a few other services). It waits for the timeouts, and seems to bypass the captcha. At this moment, I tested it on rapidshare, and it's really cool Posted on: July 23, 2008, 01:08:44 am
I found a new webhost called http://binload.to/ 300 MB, 1s waiting time and very fast download speed!  binload.to is dead. Shareonall is dead too. superuploader.net has problems too.
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