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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #42 on: March 30, 2012, 03:56:18 AM »
Yeah, I was made a mod. Actually, I was supposed to be a mod for a small board (Food, Health and Relaxation), but it seems to have fused with nachos... I would totally understand that you don't want me to be a mod for that board (or that you don't want me to be a mod).

Oh, hey, no, not at all.   :XD:  I was just shocked to see your name up there on the new section!

You're active, you're everywhere, so far, so good, I say. =D  Sorry, I didn't mean for it to come across as a "I don't want blah blah to be a mod."  It was more me expressing shock that Silv would vet you so easily (he tends to move somewhat slower on the modding thing).

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #41 on: March 30, 2012, 03:53:54 AM »
Yeah, I was made a mod. Actually, I was supposed to be a mod for a small board (Food, Health and Relaxation), but it seems to have fused with nachos... I would totally understand that you don't want me to be a mod for that board (or that you don't want me to be a mod).

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #40 on: March 30, 2012, 03:41:35 AM »
Did you just make a newbie a mod?   :XD:

I am not surprised if the other threads die because everyone is on the Forum Community section. Like DS said, it's Off-topic with post count. It is very active which is good but the problem is that one thread can be chaotic and new people will find it difficult to enter whatsoever is going on. May I suggest limiting the posts on those threads? It will enable people to move on.

We could do something like this.  Like, after an intro gets so many pages or something.  Also, encourage people to start new threads in Nachos for whatever they'd like to talk about and keep the lines moving.

Is there post count in Nachos?  Or is it the new Off-Topic?

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2012, 03:11:09 AM »
Yeah, and we need a mod too!  :wahaha:

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2012, 03:10:19 AM »
Checked it out and even posted on it. However now that I think about it, what does it offer differently from the offtopic section? Aside from the post count? May I suggest a more detailed description?

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2012, 02:33:47 AM »

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #36 on: March 30, 2012, 02:27:36 AM »
Hm, limiting the posts in introduction post will surely motivate the users to continue their discussions somewhere else. I will leave that decision up to dragonspell, who made the newbie introduction rules. But I guess we could create a general discussion forum with post count, where people can create funny, personal, offtopic posts.

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I just had a splendid idea for a forum name...

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2012, 01:45:47 AM »
I would love to make new posts to get the discussion flowing around here but getting " :p!ssed: " (sorry I can't think of a better word for discussion-killer responses) is just not motivating. I can see why the the "Like" button on facebook is invented. There is good spam and bad spam but some people just don't get it. I'm one of those who left jCafe because there's no one to talk to.

If you want to increase discussions maybe incorporating the anime and manga thread with Winny will promote one. I mean when I want to leech, I just go on that specific place and no other place else.

I am not surprised if the other threads die because everyone is on the Forum Community section. Like DS said, it's Off-topic with post count. It is very active which is good but the problem is that one thread can be chaotic and new people will find it difficult to enter whatsoever is going on. May I suggest limiting the posts on those threads? It will enable people to move on.

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2012, 11:15:10 PM »
Everyone complains about the clock but I STILL have to delete spambots every week.  And we still have over 43 new registrations a day, definitely up from last year, so I really don't think that it's all that bad.

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2012, 08:29:10 PM »
Fronnt page attractions. Manga of the week. Discussion of the day. We could also do reviews... we should in fact. Increase the entertainment value of the site... I'm still working on that manga... just don't have time...

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #32 on: March 26, 2012, 06:22:03 PM »
Since I couldn't find any general "feedback" threads, I'll just bite the bullet and post here.

I have to say that the registration process was one of the most frustrating in ages. Might be that I missed the cues on the page, but in case I didn't... would be nice if you'd mention the password length limitation and the correct time format for the "clock" verification. For the longest of time I was wondering if I'd simply become demented as it kept failing on me (whenever the captcha wouldn't).

Of course, if it is totally intentional barrier to make ensure that those who do register are committed and capable individuals... then it sure is doing it's job :)

That might be a welcome side-effect, but I assure you the intention is to prevent spam bots of laying any foothold here, which it does so very successfully. If you get frustrated by registering here just once, imagine the frustration of a human spammer trying to register here everyday or every week and who sees his account and all his posts being deleted after hours, or often minutes after posting.

As for the other suggestions, very good points. One of the features like a better mobile experience is also in consideration. Am happy to read more of your feedback!

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2012, 04:31:14 PM »
I´m a new member and my experience with the clock option was a good one, it definitely adds substance to the registraction process

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2012, 03:29:54 PM »
Since I couldn't find any general "feedback" threads, I'll just bite the bullet and post here.

I have to say that the registration process was one of the most frustrating in ages. Might be that I missed the cues on the page, but in case I didn't... would be nice if you'd mention the password length limitation and the correct time format for the "clock" verification. For the longest of time I was wondering if I'd simply become demented as it kept failing on me (whenever the captcha wouldn't).

Of course, if it is totally intentional barrier to make ensure that those who do register are committed and capable individuals... then it sure is doing it's job :)

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2012, 10:48:52 AM »
I get the forbidden 403 error.

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2012, 10:47:20 AM »
Actually its still there. I'm using it

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2012, 10:46:12 PM »
I was sad when the mobile jCafe disappeared. My crappy phone can no longer go on jCafe.

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2012, 11:18:57 AM »
aaaaah a smartphone layout mostdefinately!
or an app ;3


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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2012, 11:02:00 AM »
2.0?
And why just 7?
Eh too much txt eyes hurt...

But um... Ed isnt to active anymore but I likes to play around in cosa nostra when ever possible. umm... I started computer and technology so it be nice to still see that around :p mmm....ummmm...Sharing is caring?

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2012, 06:22:09 AM »
I don't really have much to propose, but I thought that making an app or optimizing the site for smartphones might be a good idea. I mean I sure can post my messages from a phone, but it's not very easy.

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2012, 08:21:53 PM »
ah this is beautiful, i love these walls of text that is

mm truth be told, yeep as was said if we wanted tumblr we would be at tumblr but tumblr's layout doesn't really allow for much conversation anyway (at least it's not appealing for conversation to me)

nesfe brings up a good point though, discussions of downloads is beautiful however i find that as a hindrance if the OTP posts more information on a different page due to so much response and so I'm forced to check through

or they open another thread in order to make sure it gets its share of downloads and such however then the board gets cluttered
^ to solve this have an original thread with the downloads with a sublink of (or some kind of popout/scrollout) area for discussion and the top part reserved for releases  but that would kill most discussion so oh dear... a setting for discussion viewing by default then ? uuuuuhuhuhuhuhu

Series boards are okay when a parent board gets flooded  but preset series boards is a bad idea imo
you make them as you need them ;\  that is ofcourse when other content becomes unaccessible due to the popularity of the threads pertaining to a series

honestly opening 324803217327 more threads gets us nowhere being that some people will fall off eventually  ---the drivers of the thread disappears or just joins another discussion leaving behind a shell of a thread  cluttering the interface more and more

increasing post count of the leechers would be somewhat effective however would just cause more fall off i believe of potential content posters



if i were to keep 7 that would cause the forums to stay alive:
1. Tutorials
2. Downloads
3. Offtopic
~4. Ontopic


1. people like learning things sometimes, being that this is a distro site(is it not?) tutorials on what they like/want would be awesome and would peel some of the downloaders off of their lecherous sprees- if not free stuff people like free information people like making things :3
^ what they like / want: tutorials on subbing encoding scanlating  finding raws and all that nonsense
2. self explanitory- distro site huehuehuehue
3. would be a combo of everything not related to anime/manga instead of Headlines, movies/docs*that aren't downloads*  MC* all of RL  activity and playground (almost -disclude the tuts)||
4. well ...yeah : D

...and done : D there would be some serious splintering and work into reworking the forum for this but really... we know what we come for  be it information, downloads or to talk/anime talk

the perfect forum for an iidonno would be a complicated one though oh dear

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2012, 01:46:47 AM »
Still gathering my thoughts so lets start with a short one. Reorganizing the series threads. A simple and effective idea is a two-threaded series. One thread dedicated to linking the manga and the other for discussion. The link thread would have a short summary/description and the dl links. ONLY the DL links. That preventts links from being lost in discussion and allows easy orcanization. The discussion thread would have more in depth analysis of the manga to start it off, like a review of sorts and would cater for character discussion,  chapter discussion and the like. An uploader would post his/her link in the link thread and then announce its availability in the discussion thread.
segregation and searching of series should use a tag system, tag genres, artists and other data which can be filtered and searched to find a specific series.
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all right im back.
so in terms of visuals theres a lot of tweaks that could be made. i like the simplistic microsoft approach for their homescreen. glanceable information. see what you need to right when you start. we need things right up front to catch user attention. "manga of the week" "topic of the day" "whats hot" things like that. when you sign in see your buddys posts as soon as you sign in so you can reply. a cool effect would be to make posts appear to be in speech bubbles kinda like text messages on the latest mobile platforms. that would be cool.
jcafe based projects are a good idea. do some translations, make a manga(im still working on that, just dont have the time...)

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2012, 02:37:05 AM »
I'd like to see the mafia games, as Red said, go monthly at least, but that's on Cosa Nostra.  In the other forums, maybe some kind of routine as well?  Gamer news, anime polls, whatever.  Too bad Kaos has left.  He lived for that kind of stuff.
I remember there was something on an anime site where they played a game called: Guess That Anime...or something.

Jcafe banners on scanlators sites (at least those who use raws from here, I don't think there'll be much difficulties), topics on mangaupdates, mangahelpers, other more or less popular information manga (anime, VN/LN etc) sites. Something like that.
I was thinking of something like that, but I wasn't sure how to explain it.

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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2012, 02:22:07 AM »
Leechers will be redirected to post in the series. That could be a bad thing for the people who are discussing their series.

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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2012, 01:41:33 AM »
I somewhat agree with combining Off-topic and the Forum Community, seeing as how they both tend to operate as a gathering place where people talk about whatever.  It's hard to keep an introduction on topic besides "hello!"  However, if we did so, post count couldn't be on for the forum, so no more one post count leechers getting their post count in the intro thread.  I could go either way on that.

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2012, 01:20:26 AM »
Solving the issue of spam accounts and leech accounts is really tough unless we had extremely dedicated Mods.

Top Forums:
1) Winny
2) Forum Community + Off Topic: The conversations in the Forum Community tend to go towards the Off Topic direction after introductions like DS said earlier.
3) Other Downloads
4) Series / Manga / Movies Discussions
5) News / Headlines / Politics / Technology
6) Hobbies (Show & Tell kind of forum)
7) Yaoi if it really needs it's own forum


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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2012, 10:26:00 PM »
as in jcafe send advertisements on like..manga websites? or like have jcafe as a raw-providing source for manga? im a little confused...
Jcafe banners on scanlators sites (at least those who use raws from here, I don't think there'll be much difficulties), topics on mangaupdates, mangahelpers, other more or less popular information manga (anime, VN/LN etc) sites. Something like that.

 But I said "advertisement" with "jcafe projects" in mind. What jcafe has that most of other forums hasn't? Raws? Well, maybe (although It's not exclusively jcafe's turf). But It's "came, downloaded, left" for many people. And excessive restriction measures (icreased postcount, for example) will not help attract new members.

 That's why I think that jcafe, in addition to filesharing, need some type of "group production activity". Something which help to distinguish this site among others and help to properly get it into scanlators (fansubers, etc) databases. And I believe It has to be continuous process, not the one-time action.
P.S. Re-read my post... Looks like I'm delivering a speech for committee of directors of "Jcafe24 Co., Ltd" :hot:

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2012, 08:02:07 PM »
From there community can advertise itself better and gather fans for these series, then some of the fans could became helpers for projects and eventually contributors for community as a whole.  If correctly managed and regularly advertised.
as in jcafe send advertisements on like..manga websites? or like have jcafe as a raw-providing source for manga? im a little confused...

but the sound of advertising does sound good, and just curious, where do the donations for jcafe go towards?

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2012, 06:42:34 PM »
*note to myself: I shouldn't use the iPod to write long posts*

All input from old, new, small, big, active and not so active members is welcome.

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2012, 06:09:57 PM »
increase  the Post count for getting the raws to over 10 posts  :wahaha: , not in the winney section off course. New users will then look for threads here to increase their post count. Who knows maybe they get hooked somewhere.
Considering that about 2/3 of registered users didn't bother to raise postcount even once and another 1/6 have only one counted post I think this idea is counterproductive. I, personally, not very much of a social fellow to the point of if there is need to post 10/20/50 times to download something I consider this something not worth a bother. And It's require a certain amount of time to get aquainted with forum and begin to post. Well, for me, that is.

As for the boards, I gradually became familiar with it so I don't think there is much need to clean out most forums, but I can live without any forum games.

And about new blood. I think that jcafe24 lacks working projects. Things where group(s) of people produce something (with vivid process of mentioned production). Something like it's own scanlation, fansub or Visual/Light novel translation projects (imho, VN more perspective as there already many scanlaters here, but this is only imho). From there community can advertise itself better and gather fans for these series, then some of the fans could became helpers for projects and eventually contributors for community as a whole. And then begin "more active people => more posts and other stuff => even more active people" cycle. If correctly managed and regularly advertised. On a side note any additional group (jcafe chat/jabber/IRC, jcafe online game server, although there is already Minecraft, maybe jcafe own social network in the future) activity can help to keep new people.
Oh well, It was only some rant from some leecher. ^^

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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2012, 05:46:41 PM »
Unfortunately, im a total lostie when it comes to websites...i dont venture out much. but yea, i think you should make newbies do some quality-post in at least 5 different threads (including an intro somewhere in forum community) before they actually can access the raws. like what nessie said, but 10 is quite a bit.

and i dont know...maybe you should have icons next to the names for each thread/section, kinda like a preview, cos if something looks pretty, cute or anything, people will click on it. i know i did when i saw the panda for donations!!!

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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2012, 11:04:00 AM »
If you had to choose 7 boards to keep alive, which one could you not miss?
Personally, I generally visit Forum Community, Off-topic, Cosa Nostra, and Yaoi&Shounen-ai with the occasional look at "Headlines, Economics and Policies", and "Computer, Software, Games & Internet". Even though I don't go to Winny, it is important so I think (and I'm sure you and everyone else do too) that it is an 100% keep board.
As to the boards that I think people, in general, can't live without (In order from most important to least):
1) Winny
- By the way, I noticed that jCafe has a lot of uploading boards for Japanese Movies, Music, Novels, etc. Maybe they could really just be combined into 1 Winny board and just have people tag their threads with [Music] or [Movie] or something like that? (I also realize this would be a lot of work for mods to constantly have to check that someone tagged their thread correctly if they tagged at all, make sure everything is organized, etc. etc.) I actually vaguely remember Winny being like that before? I think? At least, when hobby_master uploaded Asian Kung-Fu Generation before, I think that was in Winny.... I don't know, my memory isn't the best.
You could even have them as sub-boards under Winny, maybe? That way, all the download stuff is found under the same board and it makes jCafe seem less overwhelming?
2) Forum News
3) Forum Community
4) Off-topic
5) Cosa Nostra
6) Series/Anime&Manga (See below for my comments on this)
7) Headlines, Economics and Policies or Drawing/Listen/Writing (which, I agree, could be combined)

General question to all that view this thread:  How do you feel about the series boards?  Do you like having the series separated out?  Or do you feel segregated?  No opinion?  How often do you venture into the different series child boards?
I don't really think there is too much point to have the series segregated. I find that when they are segregated, its mostly just small topics that die out pretty fast or spammers go there to give a "____ is my favorite character!" and get their post count. Please note that I don't really go to Anime&Manga or Series forums that often though.
Nadeshiko's idea of splitting it by genre seems interesting. The downfall to that is that you start having duplicate topics for the same series or a whole bunch of "Recommend me" topics all over the place.
I'm not really sure what would be a good... solution, per se, for the Series forum... I was thinking about just having one thread per series, but then, after a while, it'll possibly become quite disorganized within the thread.

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2012, 10:37:13 AM »
increase  the Post count for getting the raws to over 10 posts  :wahaha: , not in the winney section off course. New users will then look for threads here to increase their post count. Who knows maybe they get hooked somewhere.

At the same time, we do this :
        
Another thing I notice, is that a lot of discussions go on in the Winney section. Don't get me wrong, I really like it and i think it's one of Jcafe's great advantages of other websites, how everyone discusses the raws and brings in spoilers to the threads. It's one of the main reasons i use Jcafe over other raw providing sites.

This can be expanded upon by redirecting discussions to the the Anime/Manga section maybe. Linking in the raw threads to other sections etc... In time the Discussions in Manga/Anime will grow and become a good reason for others to visit (Spoilers/Summaries/Translations) . New users might register for this too. Mangafox discussion board is successful because new kids attracted to manga read their manga there, so they start discussing in the same forum. We could provide the same only for raws/spoilers/translations (although we kinda do already).

The last thing you need is interested users, to guide the flock(staff maybe). Users to start new interesting topics to discuss, give out new info about new music/manga/movies/news etc... Content brings users.
The only sections i use are : Forum Community, Offtopic , Winney Club and sometimes Technology.

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Re: JCafe 2.0 - Suggestions to Improve
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2012, 10:31:20 AM »
My thought is, if you require new users to have some many posts from various threads such as movies for instance, we might be able to get more interest/involvement in those threads. If we did this we would need to have some clear guidlines on what would be considered a spam post or not so as not to get the required post count.

Honestly, I don't know how well that would work.  We'd most likely get the same amount of participation that we get now (i.e. spit out a one-liner and dash off).

The index page, i think is a little messy, I think it should be reorganized.

I'd agree with this.  I think that file sharing should be down below the other groupings.  That's why the majority of people come here, so they know it's there.  Put the things that they don't know about in front of them.  Like how a store puts its sale or novelty items.  Also, there's no hoping on cutting down the size of File Sharing so it would drown out the other boards.

A lot of people appeal to aesthetics...so perhaps something about the layout/logo or perhaps we should provide the catch phrase somewhere in our...umm...heading (is that what it's called)? That may catch people's attentions, although, I do like our layout right now...but some people may be interested in something more appealing.

Related to this, I still think our header is too big.  I don't like having to scroll so much just to get past it.

Also, I know this may be tiring, but organizing events may boost up more activity. Such as...contests, roleplay threads and so on.

I'd like to see the mafia games, as Red said, go monthly at least, but that's on Cosa Nostra.  In the other forums, maybe some kind of routine as well?  Gamer news, anime polls, whatever.  Too bad Kaos has left.  He lived for that kind of stuff.

Series boards? Well, most of the series are things I can't really connect to. I think it would be nice if we had genre boards instead. As an avid shoujo and josei manga reader, I feel sort of left out with all the Shounen, Gundam, Yaoi/Yuri and so on.

I'd almost agree with the genre boards idea.  We used to have those. 

@Nadeshiko: the reason why I've fought so hard for the Yaoi board is because it's always been treated like the redheaded stepchild and tended to get drowned among the others.

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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2012, 10:01:36 AM »
I would merge manga/anime within winny club. I would condense the movies, writing, drawing, and music all into a media thread and have them as sub threads if possible. Is it posible to make a differentiation between posts in the forum community thread and some of the other threads.

My thought is, if you require new users to have some many posts from various threads such as movies for instance, we might be able to get more interest/involvement in those threads. If we did this we would need to have some clear guidlines on what would be considered a spam post or not so as not to get the required post count.

As for my top seven sections:
1. Winny
2. Forum Community
3. Technology
4. Off topic
5. Listen
6. Food
7. Download sections other than winny

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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2012, 09:43:06 AM »
Hi Silver, I'm more or less new here, but i think i should gave my opinion.

  • I think there too many boards, just merge a few, you can do sub-boards or sub forums? that will keep thing not so wide, there are ones with just some spam or just dead, which is sad. If i can say more I can give a opinion of which you should merge.

  • The index page, i think is a little messy, I think it should be reorganized. Example: the people come just to winny club more in the center or end of the page, people will be force to see more boards and maybe there will get interested in some of those boards.
  • Do somethig to keep people coming, like some private groups or some kind of factions (?) obviusly the mods will keep control of those, and should only create by a group with good amount of post and Ren. (maybe this could made in the future)
  • Encourage people in Winny club to post on the other boards.
  • I get here by pure chance, so give this place something that make them more interesting and visible

And I think you should be more strictic with some leechers.

Thanks for reading my opinion.

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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2012, 09:22:31 AM »
Truth to be told, I feel quite useless in this matter because I don't think my opinion would benefit this issue. Also, because I feel guilty for not going around the other boards...so my opinion would not have much voice. Which was why I haven't replied sooner. I knew that it was something I could not avoid however. So...here goes nothing.

The vast majority of users here visit the Winny Club (the main attraction). Of course, the Forum Community is quite active but, we have less than half of the posts/activity as the Winny Club. This may be due to the fact that most of our threads in the Forum Community have been moved to the Old Introduction Threads. Looking at the Forum Community and the Off Topic boards, they're mostly just spam or casual conversations. This will not be enough to attract new users to become regulars and help the Forum survive.

However, if we do keep adding more new boards or topics, that will be too hectic and most likely deter new users from participating/coming back to the site. It would be nice if we encourage our regulars to post in other places besides the Forum Community, Off Topic and Winny Club so this may attract the other users to participate more often. We need something to get them interested and talking. So, we need to target something that everyone has in common or something perhaps different from other forums. A lot of people appeal to aesthetics...so perhaps something about the layout/logo or perhaps we should provide the catch phrase somewhere in our...umm...heading (is that what it's called)? That may catch people's attentions, although, I do like our layout right now...but some people may be interested in something more appealing.

The boards we should keep would be the big ones: Forum Community, Winny Club and Off Topic. The Headlines is a good place for people to chat around and talk about world issues (something many people have opinions about) so that should be kept. Anime & Manga should be kept as well because most people are manga/anime fans here. Cosa Nostra is "our thing" so we should keep that. The Listen, Drawing and so on boards should be kept and perhaps combined together because these subjects can interest many people and connect them. Plus, it's nice to see people sharing their works (takes a lot of courage).

Also, I know this may be tiring, but organizing events may boost up more activity. Such as...contests, roleplay threads and so on.
General question to all that view this thread:  How do you feel about the series boards?  Do you like having the series separated out?  Or do you feel segregated?  No opinion?  How often do you venture into the different series child boards?
Series boards? Well, most of the series are things I can't really connect to. I think it would be nice if we had genre boards instead. As an avid shoujo and josei manga reader, I feel sort of left out with all the Shounen, Gundam, Yaoi/Yuri and so on.

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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2012, 08:56:08 AM »
General question to all that view this thread:  How do you feel about the series boards?  Do you like having the series separated out?  Or do you feel segregated?  No opinion?  How often do you venture into the different series child boards?

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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2012, 08:40:37 AM »
I am unsure what your question is, so I'm going with the 7 boards I'd most like to keep?

Headlines (the Lounge), Forum Community, Anime & Manga, Movies, and Games/Computers/Tech Support.

I'm biased, so I'd throw the Yaoi & Shonen Ai in the keeper pile.

Probably combine Writing in with Listen, maybe even with Drawing and call it all the Arts but am unsure.  Drawing gets more traffic than both writing and listen and I like the idea of the boards, but they just don't seem to hold up.  JFan picture forum I'd throw back into Graphics.  Webhosting and P2P, I'd combine with Games and Computers.  Maybe combine Business, Metacognitive, and Debate into a "serious business" board or something--something that lets people know that it's for lengthy discussions or thinking.

Keep Cosa Nostra.  Probably Fanclub.  Definitely Off-Topic.

Just ideas on that.

I know that we put a LOT of work into the series boards, but I'm unsure how well they work.  Need to ask that.

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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2012, 07:31:08 AM »
Right now my brain tells me to close all forums except for 5 or 7.

If you had to choose 7 boards to keep alive, which one could you not miss?

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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2012, 01:56:06 AM »
The thing about the Forum Community, Silv, is that a lot of times it is USED like a social media website.  The intro threads are so popular because of the fact that there's not one designated topic (beyond welcoming the newbie, of course, whether or not said newbie actually sticks around), so the members that hang here wander from topic to topic, bringing in bits and pieces of their own lives.  A lot is, as you say, "emotionally relevant" though you will stumble across the occasional debate.  However, a great deal of it tends to be pointless spam that, once you're past the moment, isn't worth reading.  The Forum Community is Off-Topic but with post count.

What I'd like to see more of, with jCafe, is a wide diversity of users.  At the moment, we pretty much have Winny, most of whom are here for the dls.  You have the Forum Community which tends to be like a less stalkery, loosely organized Facebook, and then you have the other sections which, unfortunately, don't see much action.  I'm unsure what you can do to revitalize those sections but I think that you need them in order for jCafe to thrive.

To me, what jCafe needs is a good, solid, active core user base that is dedicated to always having new topics to talk about and not just spam.  I'm talking news, tech, games, movies, polls, a bunch of different things.  I know that some of the more active users left jCafe because there simply was no one to talk to, or that at least would talk back, so they moved on.  And, without those more active people constantly injecting some life into the boards, you're not going to attract more users to add to the regulars. 

It's fun to use the Forum as an easier to use, less tedious Facebook and I think that that has a role.  Any popular forum is going to have that.  You also need, though, to provide what Facebook cannot--discussions--or at least compete by providing the user generated content.

I'd like to see more of a Tumblr influence, as well, if we're going that way, with people that like graphics and gifs and the like.  The fact is, though, that people who like Tumblr are on Tumblr.  Why be on jCafe?

And that's the question.  Why be on jCafe?  What does jCafe have to offer that no other forum does?  Why choose jCafe over the other choices including other message boards and social media sites?

Most of the people that come to jCafe, we know why they're here.  It's why Winny's so popular.  It's why you have the multitudes of one post count leechers.  They're not here to talk.  They're here to get their downloads that they can't get elsewhere.  The problem is, though, that a forum is more than its downloads.

And it's hard to constantly provide new content.  I know.  It takes more than a few.  I have no idea how to attract those kinds of people that you want, the ones that will suck in the rest of your users.

I also think that jCafe has a LOT of boards and that tends to segregate the possible users even more.  Who wants to click, click, click through all these different boards, looking for ones that happen to have some activity?

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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2012, 01:14:20 PM »
I also share your view on this social networking phenomenon as being a way for the government to spy on you. I also wanted to think of a way to possibly combat this :wahaha:

Anyway, as for this forum. I think it's concise and simple to navigate. I never got the alt+s and alt+p shortcuts to work for posting and previewing, but that could be me. I'm mostly in here, the forum community.

Also wanted to give this thread a bump since it has kind of dropped down

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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2012, 03:28:48 PM »
Forum Community is one of the more active boards we have at jcafe and after asking the Winny Club guys I found out that they are mainly here for the warez and less for the community, but I want to hear other opinions.

Here is the deal, internet boards are going to die out. It's a new trend. It is less visual due to the sheer number of English speaking adults. I can add all the whistles and bug fixes to jCafe I want, but the number of traffic will eventually decline, the old user base will leave and be replaced by the Young Ones. But the young ones are increasingly more active in Social Networks, as the net has stripped them from any understanding of reality and dangers of cybercrime and because Social Networks provide a way of creating shorter, less factual but more emotionally relevant information in almost real time. The first reason is sheer stupidity and invites government surveillance up into your private life, but it can't be cured. The latter reason Can be fixed by using a new forum software or changing the site right into a social anonymous network WITH board functionality, as we still know it.

The latter process is actually quite complicated but over time technology will be ripe and allow it.

So here are my thoughts. Tell me what you really think about the forum content, its design, its current organization, super annoying bugs, discrepancies - in short, give me the annual situation report. You are even allowed to rant a bit on your personal opinions. I will then absorb all in it like a sponge and see what of it can be changed, fixed, newly organized etc to prepare jCafe for a new year of growing awesomeness.

I like to consider the opinion from new comers as well as senior members.

I will later sticky the topic, for now let it float.